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	<title>Comments on: Head of Australian Recording Industry on the New Music Business</title>
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	<description>save the music - not the industry.</description>
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		<title>By: James Pew</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Pew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only major labels could take this type of PR (read: propaganda), and make it consistent with their actions.  They will have no choice, I think, going forward. I am hopeful that some people working for majors will. Only time will tell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only major labels could take this type of PR (read: propaganda), and make it consistent with their actions.  They will have no choice, I think, going forward. I am hopeful that some people working for majors will. Only time will tell.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Huxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely - I love his enthusiasm, however as regards:
&lt;i&gt;“That relationship between the fan and the music is absolutely sacred, and it’s what drives our entire business at every level.”&lt;/i&gt; it&#039;s now got to be so much more than the relationship between the fan and the music. What arguably drives the consumer now is the relationship between the fan and the &lt;b&gt;artist&lt;/b&gt;. In many cases, the label only serves to distance one from the other an add another layer between fan and music/musicmaker.

It has to be Your relationship with fans, not your label&#039;s. Ask Imogen Heap.
xR
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely &#8211; I love his enthusiasm, however as regards:<br />
<i>“That relationship between the fan and the music is absolutely sacred, and it’s what drives our entire business at every level.”</i> it&#8217;s now got to be so much more than the relationship between the fan and the music. What arguably drives the consumer now is the relationship between the fan and the <b>artist</b>. In many cases, the label only serves to distance one from the other an add another layer between fan and music/musicmaker.</p>
<p>It has to be Your relationship with fans, not your label&#8217;s. Ask Imogen Heap.<br />
xR<br />
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		<title>By: refe</title>
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		<dc:creator>refe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Pew if you would like to leave a novel in the comments here you are welcome to do so.

I was hoping this would spark a little debate! You and Rich both bring up good points. And, of course the CEO of Warner Australia and the Chairman of ARIA is well-versed in the art of PR.

It would be interesting to bring up the often unfair agreements they offer artists in conversation. In a section of the original interview that I didn&#039;t reprint St. John says this:

&lt;em&gt;&quot;That relationship between the fan and the music is absolutely sacred, and it’s what drives our entire business at every level.&quot;

&quot;The job of the industry is to facilitate that relationship and make it enjoyable, seamless, and rewarding for everybody involved, and to not get in the way of that process any more than we have to. And as much as possible, to add value.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

The question that I would ask him is this: how do you reconcile that statement with the way artists are so often treated by the major record labels?

Ultimately, intentions don&#039;t mean much unless they produce action. It&#039;s still encouraging to hear someone in his position articulate these things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Pew if you would like to leave a novel in the comments here you are welcome to do so.</p>
<p>I was hoping this would spark a little debate! You and Rich both bring up good points. And, of course the CEO of Warner Australia and the Chairman of ARIA is well-versed in the art of PR.</p>
<p>It would be interesting to bring up the often unfair agreements they offer artists in conversation. In a section of the original interview that I didn&#8217;t reprint St. John says this:</p>
<p><em>&#8220;That relationship between the fan and the music is absolutely sacred, and it’s what drives our entire business at every level.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The job of the industry is to facilitate that relationship and make it enjoyable, seamless, and rewarding for everybody involved, and to not get in the way of that process any more than we have to. And as much as possible, to add value.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>The question that I would ask him is this: how do you reconcile that statement with the way artists are so often treated by the major record labels?</p>
<p>Ultimately, intentions don&#8217;t mean much unless they produce action. It&#8217;s still encouraging to hear someone in his position articulate these things.</p>
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		<title>By: James Pew</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Pew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post refe. I reblogged on Studio Manifesto, along with my comment below. Sorry  for the length.

1)  &quot;Often the people criticizing do not have a full understanding of the inner workings of big conglomerate music companies.&quot; -  Although this may be true, do you really need to be an expert on how record companies operate to know that their models have more often than not exploited artists and taken unfair portions of revenues? Do you need to be an expert on power generation to know that coal burning power plants are an out moded technology that pollute and should be replaced with innovative non-polluting sustainable technologies?

2) &quot;if anyone bothered to come look at the people that work at a record label, and the work they actually do, they’d realize that there is actually a group of quite dedicated people trying to make their artists successful.&quot; -  This is a classic argument that is used by every corporate PR person, from virtually any business where corporate tyranny exists. Its never the people working for the firm…its the corporation itself when you view its activity in totality.

Get my full reaction at www.studiomanifesto.ca</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post refe. I reblogged on Studio Manifesto, along with my comment below. Sorry  for the length.</p>
<p>1)  &#8220;Often the people criticizing do not have a full understanding of the inner workings of big conglomerate music companies.&#8221; &#8211;  Although this may be true, do you really need to be an expert on how record companies operate to know that their models have more often than not exploited artists and taken unfair portions of revenues? Do you need to be an expert on power generation to know that coal burning power plants are an out moded technology that pollute and should be replaced with innovative non-polluting sustainable technologies?</p>
<p>2) &#8220;if anyone bothered to come look at the people that work at a record label, and the work they actually do, they’d realize that there is actually a group of quite dedicated people trying to make their artists successful.&#8221; &#8211;  This is a classic argument that is used by every corporate PR person, from virtually any business where corporate tyranny exists. Its never the people working for the firm…its the corporation itself when you view its activity in totality.</p>
<p>Get my full reaction at <a href="http://www.studiomanifesto.ca" rel="nofollow">http://www.studiomanifesto.ca</a></p>
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		<title>By: Studio Manifesto &#124; Head of Australian Recording Industry on the New Music Business &#124; Studio Manifesto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Studio Manifesto &#124; Head of Australian Recording Industry on the New Music Business &#124; Studio Manifesto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Rich Huxley</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/09/head-of-the-australian-recording-industry-on-the-new-music-business/comment-page-1/#comment-1686</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich Huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 13:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article as ever CD, however I&#039;ve got to chip in on a few things:
1 - &quot;demonisation of the music industry (is) sort of easy to do... It’s an easy position to take, because you don’t really have to explain how they’re evil. It’s generalised evil...&quot;
While this generalised evil theory has some weight, it&#039;s fairly easy to break down
- 80/20 splits or worse in favour of the label
- signing artists and not releasing their works, or promoting them
- short term success seeking = long terms failure (the main reason that the record business is failing for me - have a look at Malcolm Gladwell&#039;s talk at AIGA - www.aiga.org/content.cfm/video-gain-2008-gladwell)

I won&#039;t go on, I&#039;ve made it clear which side of the fence I&#039;m on. I for one would be keen to see integration between old &quot;industry&quot; and new music strategies with independents, however it&#039;s further complicated by the relatively closed shops (in the UK at least) of radio and TV.

I for one am looking forward to hearing the outcomes of today&#039;s debate in London about file-sharing. Please feel free to share my files wherever you want by the way:
www.hopeandsocial.wordpress.com/about
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article as ever CD, however I&#8217;ve got to chip in on a few things:<br />
1 &#8211; &#8220;demonisation of the music industry (is) sort of easy to do&#8230; It’s an easy position to take, because you don’t really have to explain how they’re evil. It’s generalised evil&#8230;&#8221;<br />
While this generalised evil theory has some weight, it&#8217;s fairly easy to break down<br />
- 80/20 splits or worse in favour of the label<br />
- signing artists and not releasing their works, or promoting them<br />
- short term success seeking = long terms failure (the main reason that the record business is failing for me &#8211; have a look at Malcolm Gladwell&#8217;s talk at AIGA &#8211; <a href="http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/video-gain-2008-gladwell" rel="nofollow">http://www.aiga.org/content.cfm/video-gain-2008-gladwell</a>)</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t go on, I&#8217;ve made it clear which side of the fence I&#8217;m on. I for one would be keen to see integration between old &#8220;industry&#8221; and new music strategies with independents, however it&#8217;s further complicated by the relatively closed shops (in the UK at least) of radio and TV.</p>
<p>I for one am looking forward to hearing the outcomes of today&#8217;s debate in London about file-sharing. Please feel free to share my files wherever you want by the way:<br />
<a href="http://www.hopeandsocial.wordpress.com/about" rel="nofollow">http://www.hopeandsocial.wordpress.com/about</a><br />
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		<title>By: Andrew McMillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 03:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Refe,

Thought you might dig this reply from Ed when I showed him your commentary.

&quot;Bloody hell Andrew, what have we done? I’m attracting positive and sympathetic feedback from the blogosphere. Where will this madness end?

It’s nice to see a more measured perspective. We’re actually not evil .... we’re just cursed with being the incumbents in a rapidly changing world. 

Cheers

Ed&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Refe,</p>
<p>Thought you might dig this reply from Ed when I showed him your commentary.</p>
<p>&#8220;Bloody hell Andrew, what have we done? I’m attracting positive and sympathetic feedback from the blogosphere. Where will this madness end?</p>
<p>It’s nice to see a more measured perspective. We’re actually not evil &#8230;. we’re just cursed with being the incumbents in a rapidly changing world. </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Ed&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: refe</title>
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		<dc:creator>refe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for giving me something worth talking about!</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew McMillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So great to get your perspective on St John&#039;s words, Refe. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So great to get your perspective on St John&#8217;s words, Refe. Thanks!</p>
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