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	<description>save the music - not the industry.</description>
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		<title>By: refe</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/08/the-defining-sound-of-this-decade-is-undefined/comment-page-1/#comment-2227</link>
		<dc:creator>refe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you may be taking an overly cynical view of things, but you do make a good point. Without the top-down taste-forcing of mainstream radio the market has been freed up to make their own choices about what music they want to listen to. That has certainly effected the prominance and longevity of different acts and styles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you may be taking an overly cynical view of things, but you do make a good point. Without the top-down taste-forcing of mainstream radio the market has been freed up to make their own choices about what music they want to listen to. That has certainly effected the prominance and longevity of different acts and styles.</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz Gerlich</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/08/the-defining-sound-of-this-decade-is-undefined/comment-page-1/#comment-2225</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz Gerlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The whole &#039;sounds of a decade&#039; thing is marketing crap.  Most people in the 90&#039;s did not listen to Nirvana, just as in the 80&#039;s they did not listen to Michael Jackson, or Led Zeppelin in the 70&#039;s; maybe the exception to the rule might be the Beatles, but even they had limited appeal.   Also, most bands/performers in the 90&#039;s did not sound like Nirvana, or Jackson in the 80&#039;s, or Zep in the 70&#039;s, or the Beatles in the 60&#039;s.  There has always been a huge, diverse amount of music being produced.  

What has changed is the music industry no long controls the media so they cannot ram music fads down our throats and make us think &#039;this&#039; is the next big thing.  The only thing that&#039;s changed is that we know more now and are better connected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The whole &#8216;sounds of a decade&#8217; thing is marketing crap.  Most people in the 90&#8242;s did not listen to Nirvana, just as in the 80&#8242;s they did not listen to Michael Jackson, or Led Zeppelin in the 70&#8242;s; maybe the exception to the rule might be the Beatles, but even they had limited appeal.   Also, most bands/performers in the 90&#8242;s did not sound like Nirvana, or Jackson in the 80&#8242;s, or Zep in the 70&#8242;s, or the Beatles in the 60&#8242;s.  There has always been a huge, diverse amount of music being produced.  </p>
<p>What has changed is the music industry no long controls the media so they cannot ram music fads down our throats and make us think &#8216;this&#8217; is the next big thing.  The only thing that&#8217;s changed is that we know more now and are better connected.</p>
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		<title>By: jim caroompas</title>
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		<dc:creator>jim caroompas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 15:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all these great posts. I have to agree that there has been no defining sound for this decade, and it really is amazing to consider all the immense changes taking place in our times -- the record industry just 10 years ago, though clearly in trouble, seemed a permanent fixture. Now it&#039;s just teetering on the brink of extinction. Meanwhile, people can make CDs in their bedrooms, living rooms and garages. With no centralized distribution or marketing model, most of this music is going unheralded, but at least it&#039;s out there. In years past, most music just got played, not recorded. Everything finds its own level, and it&#039;s just a matter of time before we morph into the next model, the next sound, the next phase. Meanwhile, I&#039;m enjoying the chaos and anarchy of it all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all these great posts. I have to agree that there has been no defining sound for this decade, and it really is amazing to consider all the immense changes taking place in our times &#8212; the record industry just 10 years ago, though clearly in trouble, seemed a permanent fixture. Now it&#8217;s just teetering on the brink of extinction. Meanwhile, people can make CDs in their bedrooms, living rooms and garages. With no centralized distribution or marketing model, most of this music is going unheralded, but at least it&#8217;s out there. In years past, most music just got played, not recorded. Everything finds its own level, and it&#8217;s just a matter of time before we morph into the next model, the next sound, the next phase. Meanwhile, I&#8217;m enjoying the chaos and anarchy of it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Globalism</title>
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		<dc:creator>Globalism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s pretty rare that I comment on posts, but reckon it&#039;s about time to start getting a little more involved in conversations - this one prompted me to add my contribution.

Born at the beginning of the 70&#039;s, I lived through the very tail-end of punk, plus all the great music that came with the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s. I also immersed myself in stuff from the 60&#039;s and 50&#039;s, and am self-taught in popular music history. 

Living in the UK throughout, British (and American) music was one of the things that kept me going in a country that I otherwise despaired of. Like so, so many others, I spent most of my youth obsessively following and absorbing all I could of the greats - be it The Beatles, Miles, Bowie, Ella Fitzgerald, Massive Attack or Sonic Youth - along with all the other great tunes that ended up under the radar too, the sounds of the Great Unheard that would jump out like diamonds from a moment on the John Peel show or in some obscure magazine review.

A few years on from Napster, I finally made a clean break from my past and roots, and moved to Tokyo. This had a number of effects on the music that had always mattered so much to me. Firstly, I started listening to non-Western music to a much greater degree than I ever had, resulting in the borders between musics breaking down rapidly. Secondly, I bought my first iPod, which arguably had as much or more impact on the issues discussed above than did Napster. If P2P slayed the distribution model, storage space and playlist creation did pretty much the same for the format model. Both of these things were general cultural shifts anyway, and may well have affected me whether I&#039;d been living in Japan or not

We are living through (mostly peaceful) revolutionary times on a global scale, for the first time in the history of our species, where all that once was certain and immovable is now swept away or on very shaky ground. Music and the industry that developed over the twentieth century around it is just one of the many aspects of our lives where all the certainties of the past are now being totally redefined.

To add a couple of points that tie in with Refe&#039;s post above, I think that there have been several great songs in the post 9/11 era that relate to the issues, but they&#039;ve appeared in a time where we don&#039;t all just listen to one radio station or read one newspaper any more. They&#039;re spread all over the place. Have a listen to the online jukebox at http://peace.fm/music/peace-jukebox for a handful of post-9/11 &#039;protest music&#039; tracks.

Finally, as the decade draws to a close, I&#039;d agree with the above that there are no decade-defining music acts for the 00&#039;s as there were for the previous four. However, there&#039;s also more great music (including that of the past and the present) than there ever has been before and an infinite variety of ways to get it past your ears. The global adoption of the internet has been such a game-changer in every aspect of our lives that no-one&#039;s really sure what it all means yet. 

Sites like this, with the search for new ways forward for musicians, listeners and the business around it all, are a great start for trying to figure out what to make of it all and how to build for music in this new world.

Keep up the good work, Refe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s pretty rare that I comment on posts, but reckon it&#8217;s about time to start getting a little more involved in conversations &#8211; this one prompted me to add my contribution.</p>
<p>Born at the beginning of the 70&#8242;s, I lived through the very tail-end of punk, plus all the great music that came with the 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s. I also immersed myself in stuff from the 60&#8242;s and 50&#8242;s, and am self-taught in popular music history. </p>
<p>Living in the UK throughout, British (and American) music was one of the things that kept me going in a country that I otherwise despaired of. Like so, so many others, I spent most of my youth obsessively following and absorbing all I could of the greats &#8211; be it The Beatles, Miles, Bowie, Ella Fitzgerald, Massive Attack or Sonic Youth &#8211; along with all the other great tunes that ended up under the radar too, the sounds of the Great Unheard that would jump out like diamonds from a moment on the John Peel show or in some obscure magazine review.</p>
<p>A few years on from Napster, I finally made a clean break from my past and roots, and moved to Tokyo. This had a number of effects on the music that had always mattered so much to me. Firstly, I started listening to non-Western music to a much greater degree than I ever had, resulting in the borders between musics breaking down rapidly. Secondly, I bought my first iPod, which arguably had as much or more impact on the issues discussed above than did Napster. If P2P slayed the distribution model, storage space and playlist creation did pretty much the same for the format model. Both of these things were general cultural shifts anyway, and may well have affected me whether I&#8217;d been living in Japan or not</p>
<p>We are living through (mostly peaceful) revolutionary times on a global scale, for the first time in the history of our species, where all that once was certain and immovable is now swept away or on very shaky ground. Music and the industry that developed over the twentieth century around it is just one of the many aspects of our lives where all the certainties of the past are now being totally redefined.</p>
<p>To add a couple of points that tie in with Refe&#8217;s post above, I think that there have been several great songs in the post 9/11 era that relate to the issues, but they&#8217;ve appeared in a time where we don&#8217;t all just listen to one radio station or read one newspaper any more. They&#8217;re spread all over the place. Have a listen to the online jukebox at <a href="http://peace.fm/music/peace-jukebox" rel="nofollow">http://peace.fm/music/peace-jukebox</a> for a handful of post-9/11 &#8216;protest music&#8217; tracks.</p>
<p>Finally, as the decade draws to a close, I&#8217;d agree with the above that there are no decade-defining music acts for the 00&#8242;s as there were for the previous four. However, there&#8217;s also more great music (including that of the past and the present) than there ever has been before and an infinite variety of ways to get it past your ears. The global adoption of the internet has been such a game-changer in every aspect of our lives that no-one&#8217;s really sure what it all means yet. </p>
<p>Sites like this, with the search for new ways forward for musicians, listeners and the business around it all, are a great start for trying to figure out what to make of it all and how to build for music in this new world.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work, Refe!</p>
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		<title>By: paniq</title>
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		<dc:creator>paniq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 18:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to offer &quot;paniq&quot; as the defining sound of this decade. Once you had a pinch of his music, you will have no choice except agreeing with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to offer &#8220;paniq&#8221; as the defining sound of this decade. Once you had a pinch of his music, you will have no choice except agreeing with me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick Aushey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick Aushey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the trained eye, it might sound imperfect. 
Sounds are for ears!
Exactly my points.
Oh yea, I was talking about:
Meanningful Randomness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the trained eye, it might sound imperfect.<br />
Sounds are for ears!<br />
Exactly my points.<br />
Oh yea, I was talking about:<br />
Meanningful Randomness.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Holmes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Holmes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been said that History = Culture = Destiny.

With this in mind, the comment about &quot;Teach Your Children&quot; and the Muse/Queen connection are telling.

As mentioned previously, the past is being plundered and in some cases rewritten. For example, Amy Winehouse rewrote the words to Ray Charles&#039; music and made a bundle doing so.

It&#039;s not a leap to say that when history is erased, progression will likely stall, or die.

And music isn&#039;t the only industry where this is happening. The advertising agency business is suffering the same fate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said that History = Culture = Destiny.</p>
<p>With this in mind, the comment about &#8220;Teach Your Children&#8221; and the Muse/Queen connection are telling.</p>
<p>As mentioned previously, the past is being plundered and in some cases rewritten. For example, Amy Winehouse rewrote the words to Ray Charles&#8217; music and made a bundle doing so.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a leap to say that when history is erased, progression will likely stall, or die.</p>
<p>And music isn&#8217;t the only industry where this is happening. The advertising agency business is suffering the same fate.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitter Trackbacks for The Defining Sound of this Decade is ... Undefined. &#124; creative deconstruction [creativedeconstruction.com] on Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 08:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] link is being shared on Twitter right now. @refeup, an influential author, said The defining music of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Eugenia&#39;s Rants and Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Rock all said and done? Part II</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eugenia&#39;s Rants and Thoughts &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Is Rock all said and done? Part II</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] wrote an article here, published a response from an industry veteran here, and that same veteran wrote an article of his [...]</description>
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		<title>By: refe</title>
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		<dc:creator>refe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fitting that the song should be &quot;Teach Your Children!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fitting that the song should be &#8220;Teach Your Children!&#8221;</p>
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