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		<title>By: Fritz Gerlich</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/05/why-the-music-industry-still-needs-taste-makers/comment-page-1/#comment-2226</link>
		<dc:creator>Fritz Gerlich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it&#039;s something I never do, a friend told me the best way to discover new music is to find a nice private torrent tracker, and overtime identify uploaders whose taste you trust and download whatever they upload.  If someone takes the time to rip and scan an album, they probably like it.  This won&#039;t work as well on big giant trackers (especially those that treat ratio like some kind thing to be rationed like silk in WWII).  But on a small to medium sized site, you can connect with real music fans and share in their tastes.</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 19:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] WHY THE MUSIC INDUSTRY STILL NEEDS TASTE MAKERS &#124; creative deconstruction  www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/05/why-the-music-industry-still-needs-taste-makers &#8211; view page &#8211; cached  The sooner new taste-makers emerge, the sooner the real talent will have be ableto rise more quickly to the top. That&#039;s good for everybody - except the filler. &#8212; From the page [...]</description>
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		<title>By: karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the record companies are only half the problem. Most people discovered new music via radio stations- this has always been a problem-their Narrow focus &amp; attitude of &#039;Music fills the gaps between commercials&#039; has always made it hard to get anything new played! I&#039;ve spent years in the music industry &amp; am investing heavily in my website www.whotune.com for Unsigned/indie artists. It VERY new but already the quality of music is astounding! it has a 24/7 radio station playing music from the site- top 20 voted for by listeners, &#039;ya gotta hear this&#039; songs we like ourselves or think you will like Plus you can search the entire database VERY easily. Its a social network site for the music industry &amp; fans of new music. Im adding new features &amp; have a great &#039;Live&#039; option coming soon (2 wweks!) im very excited about this feature! plus instant messaging &amp; a shopping carte coming. check it out- register- its all FREE to use. Cheers everyone! www.whotune.com/karl_-_whotune</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the record companies are only half the problem. Most people discovered new music via radio stations- this has always been a problem-their Narrow focus &amp; attitude of &#8216;Music fills the gaps between commercials&#8217; has always made it hard to get anything new played! I&#8217;ve spent years in the music industry &amp; am investing heavily in my website <a href="http://www.whotune.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.whotune.com</a> for Unsigned/indie artists. It VERY new but already the quality of music is astounding! it has a 24/7 radio station playing music from the site- top 20 voted for by listeners, &#8216;ya gotta hear this&#8217; songs we like ourselves or think you will like Plus you can search the entire database VERY easily. Its a social network site for the music industry &amp; fans of new music. Im adding new features &amp; have a great &#8216;Live&#8217; option coming soon (2 wweks!) im very excited about this feature! plus instant messaging &amp; a shopping carte coming. check it out- register- its all FREE to use. Cheers everyone! <a href="http://www.whotune.com/karl_-_whotune" rel="nofollow">http://www.whotune.com/karl_-_whotune</a></p>
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		<title>By: Why the Music Industry Still Needs Taste Makers &#124; State of Mind of The Arts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Why the Music Industry Still Needs Taste Makers &#124; State of Mind of The Arts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Darragh</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/05/why-the-music-industry-still-needs-taste-makers/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Darragh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree with the trustworthy voice approach. I guess I&#039;m more just annoyed at the taste-making approach that Pitchfork and the like seem to promote - one that often seems to try make different sets of music fans feel inadequate simply for liking a band or a certain record, often posting articles that not only seem to attack certain bands and records but also the reader as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with the trustworthy voice approach. I guess I&#8217;m more just annoyed at the taste-making approach that Pitchfork and the like seem to promote &#8211; one that often seems to try make different sets of music fans feel inadequate simply for liking a band or a certain record, often posting articles that not only seem to attack certain bands and records but also the reader as well.</p>
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		<title>By: refe</title>
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		<dc:creator>refe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s supposed to be objective at all - it&#039;s 100% subjective and that&#039;s the point. Being a taste maker isn&#039;t about convincing people that they should like this band or that, nor is it about factually proving the quality of a piece of music. And of course there will be people who disagree with the taste makers - I don&#039;t think a blogger, critic, or DJ could have any credibility otherwise.

As I said before, it&#039;s really about trust and respect. I imagine that it would be very difficult to set a goal and say, &quot;I will become an international taste maker.&quot; It&#039;s much more organic that that. The trust, respect and relationship that are necessary for a person&#039;s opinion to matter take time to develop.

You&#039;re right though, not everyone wants to have their tastes influenced. (Of course, they are being influenced whether they like it or not!) But I think the majority of people appreciate having a trustworthy voice to tell them what to listen to and what to like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s supposed to be objective at all &#8211; it&#8217;s 100% subjective and that&#8217;s the point. Being a taste maker isn&#8217;t about convincing people that they should like this band or that, nor is it about factually proving the quality of a piece of music. And of course there will be people who disagree with the taste makers &#8211; I don&#8217;t think a blogger, critic, or DJ could have any credibility otherwise.</p>
<p>As I said before, it&#8217;s really about trust and respect. I imagine that it would be very difficult to set a goal and say, &#8220;I will become an international taste maker.&#8221; It&#8217;s much more organic that that. The trust, respect and relationship that are necessary for a person&#8217;s opinion to matter take time to develop.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right though, not everyone wants to have their tastes influenced. (Of course, they are being influenced whether they like it or not!) But I think the majority of people appreciate having a trustworthy voice to tell them what to listen to and what to like.</p>
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		<title>By: Darragh</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/05/why-the-music-industry-still-needs-taste-makers/comment-page-1/#comment-749</link>
		<dc:creator>Darragh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrm, a thought-provoking post. However, I&#039;m often troubled by the concept of &#039;taste making critics&#039;, indeed by the title. It infers that some people know what they are talking about and some don&#039;t, and I think that is an unfair distinction. I really hate the prefix &#039;taste maker&#039;, it is inaccurate and ambiguous.

From what I read here, what differentiates &#039;hits&#039; from &#039;filler&#039; is what the taste-maker critic tells me. Just like the &#039;gate-keeping&#039; editor in news journalism - what makes the paper is what the editor likes - but, as we&#039;ve seen many a time, this isn&#039;t often the full story. 

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I&#039;m respectful of those who take the time and effort to blog about the music they love, but I&#039;m conscious that what taste-makers choose to write about is based purely on subjectivity. Sometimes I like music that certain taste-makers might not, should I feel guilty about that? 

Sometimes, It almost seems that taste-makers need people to think they require people to tell them what are hits and what ain&#039;t to justify their own occupation or hobby or what not. Do people really want to be told what to like or not? Well, some people will do, others won&#039;t.

I think a great philosophy towards critical music writing is to be honest but never disguise for a second that the perspective one takes is purely their own. I also think it is a waste of time and words to write about stuff you don&#039;t like. I don&#039;t see how that is constructive at all. I realise that if someone was in the music magazine business that you are forced to attempt to take an objective standpoint, but since musical taste seems impossible to measure, it therefore is impossible to be objective. 

Anyway, good article, made me think, made me write these fairly jumbled up thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrm, a thought-provoking post. However, I&#8217;m often troubled by the concept of &#8216;taste making critics&#8217;, indeed by the title. It infers that some people know what they are talking about and some don&#8217;t, and I think that is an unfair distinction. I really hate the prefix &#8216;taste maker&#8217;, it is inaccurate and ambiguous.</p>
<p>From what I read here, what differentiates &#8216;hits&#8217; from &#8216;filler&#8217; is what the taste-maker critic tells me. Just like the &#8216;gate-keeping&#8217; editor in news journalism &#8211; what makes the paper is what the editor likes &#8211; but, as we&#8217;ve seen many a time, this isn&#8217;t often the full story. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I&#8217;m respectful of those who take the time and effort to blog about the music they love, but I&#8217;m conscious that what taste-makers choose to write about is based purely on subjectivity. Sometimes I like music that certain taste-makers might not, should I feel guilty about that? </p>
<p>Sometimes, It almost seems that taste-makers need people to think they require people to tell them what are hits and what ain&#8217;t to justify their own occupation or hobby or what not. Do people really want to be told what to like or not? Well, some people will do, others won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I think a great philosophy towards critical music writing is to be honest but never disguise for a second that the perspective one takes is purely their own. I also think it is a waste of time and words to write about stuff you don&#8217;t like. I don&#8217;t see how that is constructive at all. I realise that if someone was in the music magazine business that you are forced to attempt to take an objective standpoint, but since musical taste seems impossible to measure, it therefore is impossible to be objective. </p>
<p>Anyway, good article, made me think, made me write these fairly jumbled up thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McMillen</title>
		<link>http://www.creativedeconstruction.com/2009/05/why-the-music-industry-still-needs-taste-makers/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be a complete liar if I said I&#039;d never listened to a band based on a positive review of their disc or live show. I&#039;m a heavy reader, so the people who write for print/web have more traction as tastemakers in my life than radio, or the recommendation engines you mentioned.

I&#039;m largely a live music critic, which means that I&#039;m aware of most bands that I&#039;m to review before seeing them. So there&#039;s that exploration phase that every music fan goes through when finding new artists, and deciding on who&#039;s worth their time. My role as a live critic has shifted since I began two years ago, as I&#039;m now much more focused on the performances on the night, instead of wasting words on periphery events. If you&#039;re interested, you can view my reviews at http://last.fm/user/NiteShok/journal

Like you said, there&#039;s more music being uploaded each day than you could ever hope to keep up with. And much of it will be outside your tastes. Which is where the role of the tastemaker comes in: to wade through the shit and find the gold. 

A side note - are you aware of http://wearehunted.com? It&#039;s an aggregator that charts the most talked-about tracks online each day.

I believe that there&#039;ll always be an interest in reading critical appraisal of musicians&#039; works. Perhaps the hardest part for someone who sets out to fulfill the tastemaker role is to choose their medium: blog, Twitter, mailing list, all of the above, or am I missing something?

Cheers Refe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be a complete liar if I said I&#8217;d never listened to a band based on a positive review of their disc or live show. I&#8217;m a heavy reader, so the people who write for print/web have more traction as tastemakers in my life than radio, or the recommendation engines you mentioned.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m largely a live music critic, which means that I&#8217;m aware of most bands that I&#8217;m to review before seeing them. So there&#8217;s that exploration phase that every music fan goes through when finding new artists, and deciding on who&#8217;s worth their time. My role as a live critic has shifted since I began two years ago, as I&#8217;m now much more focused on the performances on the night, instead of wasting words on periphery events. If you&#8217;re interested, you can view my reviews at <a href="http://last.fm/user/NiteShok/journal" rel="nofollow">http://last.fm/user/NiteShok/journal</a></p>
<p>Like you said, there&#8217;s more music being uploaded each day than you could ever hope to keep up with. And much of it will be outside your tastes. Which is where the role of the tastemaker comes in: to wade through the shit and find the gold. </p>
<p>A side note &#8211; are you aware of <a href="http://wearehunted.com?" rel="nofollow">http://wearehunted.com?</a> It&#8217;s an aggregator that charts the most talked-about tracks online each day.</p>
<p>I believe that there&#8217;ll always be an interest in reading critical appraisal of musicians&#8217; works. Perhaps the hardest part for someone who sets out to fulfill the tastemaker role is to choose their medium: blog, Twitter, mailing list, all of the above, or am I missing something?</p>
<p>Cheers Refe.</p>
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		<title>By: refe</title>
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		<dc:creator>refe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 03:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your right - I didn&#039;t mention music critics. Not intentionally, but it&#039;s a good observation. 

Critics didn&#039;t play a very direct role in shaping my early musical tastes, to be honest. I guess growing up the local scene that I was a part of always had a bit of a distrust toward them.

This isn&#039;t something I&#039;ve thought a lot about, so take it for what it&#039;s worth, but I think that for a music critic to be relevant in the social media world they&#039;d have to be more than a critic - they would have to be a personality themselves. To effectively shape the way people look at music they have to have some level of trust or respect for you, and for that they have to feel like they know you. Thankfully, that type of relationship has been made pretty accessible through social media.

I took the liberty of checking out your site (enjoyed it quite a bit, actually) and couldn&#039;t help but notice that you yourself are a music critic. I&#039;d be interested to hear your thoughts. Do you feel like you and your ilk have been successful or effective as tastemakers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your right &#8211; I didn&#8217;t mention music critics. Not intentionally, but it&#8217;s a good observation. </p>
<p>Critics didn&#8217;t play a very direct role in shaping my early musical tastes, to be honest. I guess growing up the local scene that I was a part of always had a bit of a distrust toward them.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t something I&#8217;ve thought a lot about, so take it for what it&#8217;s worth, but I think that for a music critic to be relevant in the social media world they&#8217;d have to be more than a critic &#8211; they would have to be a personality themselves. To effectively shape the way people look at music they have to have some level of trust or respect for you, and for that they have to feel like they know you. Thankfully, that type of relationship has been made pretty accessible through social media.</p>
<p>I took the liberty of checking out your site (enjoyed it quite a bit, actually) and couldn&#8217;t help but notice that you yourself are a music critic. I&#8217;d be interested to hear your thoughts. Do you feel like you and your ilk have been successful or effective as tastemakers?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew McMillen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew McMillen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A good read, but you completely neglected to mention the role of music critics. Do you perceive that professional music writers and reviewers are without value? Their absence in this article seems to indicate that outcome.</description>
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